Friday, June 17, 2005

Ron Paul(R.I.N.O.)Texas, a co-sponsor of an anti-patriot bill

And the A.C.L.U. is in favor of the "Ben Franklin" bill.

Not that they have much-if any verifiable facts regarding the government trampling on anyones rights. How many times in the last 4 years have you heard the ACLU- or their anti-bush banshies howling about "Patriot Act Abuse"?

I don't remember any directly related. I remember some they TRIED to tie to it, but that was just the old fasioned law enforcement.

WASHINGTON – It’s particularly apt that this bill be titled the “Ben Franklin True Patriot Act,” for it was that great leader who once said, “Passion governs, and she never governs wisely.” Passion does not usually govern, but when she does, measures like the 2001 USA PATRIOT Act result. This law – because of the panic created by the worst terrorist attack on American soil -- went too far, too fast.

You'll notice they deliberatly didn't use the saying that "Those who give up their freedom for security deserve neither"... Any guesses why the ACLU doesn't want to go there?

Civil liberties supporters seek only to roll back these overreaching segments of the bill.

Congressmen Dennis Kucinich from Ohio and Ron Paul from Texas have taken a necessary step in that direction. Congress now has a chance to repair the damage done by what conservative Republican Don Young from Alaska called “emotional voting.” This legislation would ensure that an effective “war on terrorism” is conducted within the bounds of the Constitution. Congress must take this concrete step toward ensuring both our safety and our freedom.


Ummm, yeah I'm glad congress seldom votes on emotion only- gawd knows that we need more useless laws that sound good to emotional voters.

Not only does this bill deal appropriately with these problematic sections of the PATRIOT Act , it also takes steps to roll back other equally pernicious policies and legislation passed in response to 9/11.

For instance, the proposed True Patriot Act fixes the 18-month-old law barring all non-citizens from working as baggage handlers, a measure that resulted in mass firings of experienced workers -- to the detriment of Americans’ safety. It also seeks to repeal the Attorney General’s regulation that allows the federal government to monitor attorney-client conversations in federal prisons without a court order.

The True Patriot Act also corrects some of the anti-immigrant measures taken since 9/11, including the Justice Department’s policy of closing all immigration proceedings in certain cases, a veil that includes omitting any mention of the hearing in the court docket. The ACLU and Congressman John Conyers of Michigan filed suit against this blackout order last year, prompting a federal judge to declare, “democracies die behind closed doors.” The legislation would also ensure that the FBI would not spy on protesters or in religious institutions unless it was investigating criminal activity.


Three questions. How does fireing "non-US citizens"(illegals?) lowwer Americans safety?
Which "certain cases" were immigrant cases closed on? Legal immigrants who had nothing to hide, or illegals and people who have questionable pasts?
Wasn't the FBI spying on churches thing a Clinton legacy?-Why are they having problems with it now?

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